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walters
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Tones,Timbre,Voicing and Eq

How to make a guitar tones/voicing?

What makes a tone different from another guitarist tone?


Jimi Hendrix has like 10 guitar tones/voicings on every song they are all
different tones and voicings how do you make this tones and voicings?

Using eqs?

How to adjust the Eqs to sound like a trumpet?
"so if any source was put in the eq input the output would have a
trumpets curve and tone and waveform"

How to adjust the Eqs to sound like a Trombone?
"so if any source was put in the eq input the output would have a
trombones curve and tone and waveform"

How to adjust the Eqs to sound like a sax?
"so if any source was put in the eq input the output would have a
sax curve and tone and waveform"

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the purpose of EQ

TONE and TIMBRE are NOT the same. You cannot make one instrument sound like another using EQ.

I did a google search on "define TIMBRE": "the quality of a musical note which distinguishes different types of musical instrument. For example, a note of the same pitch can be played on several different instruments: it has the same frequency, yet the human ear hears them as different."

Every instrument produces a different timbre. I don't just means different types of instruments. For example, Fender Strats sound different than Gibson Les Pauls (at least to the trained ear)-- yet they are both electric guitars (wrap your brain around that). Just the same as solid-state electronics sound different than tubes. It's all about HARMONIC content.

EQ adjusts TONE. An equalizer (EQ) is really a frequency-dependent amplifier. It amplifies or reduces the specific frequencies defined by the user. A 32-band graphic EQ in the studio serves the same basic function as the treble and bass knobs on your car stereo. This deals with FREQUENCY content.[/i]

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They have like different textures

like leslie west from the band mountain has a voice
on his guitar its like a tone/voice

I wonder how to create a tone/voice

it has to do with eq/timbre

Steve Stills has that tone/voice also

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guitar pedals

they are most likely using guitar effects pedals.

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yea but im thinking about just using Volumes and Eqs
to create different tones/voicing

Because alot about tone is eq

but what is voicing made out of ? its like a timbre

but what pedal or unit creates Timbres?

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voicing

voicing has to do with music theory, not timbre. if a guitar track is doubled in a different voicing, it just means the chords are played differently. You can't adjust voicing after it's been recorded as audio.

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i ment like the guitar have a Voice like a Tone/Voice/Timbre


If i hook my guitar up to a Timbre unit i can generate some more
timbres with the guitar and it creates a voice

Do you know what can create Timbres?

what Create Textures? what rack mount gear creates Timbres and textures

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Synthesis

You need to look at "synthesis" Timbre is created by a different oscillating object, one which oscillates with differing patterns to another one. Then the harmonic series of each vibrating object will have different amounts of energy at different frequencies relative to the fundamental frequency.

That is Timbre...

So, in order to know how to create timbre artificially, you need to go and search for audio electronic circuits.

The easiest method would be to look at electronic circuits for Subtractive Synthesis.

Again, my friend, you are posting stuff in the wrong place.

GO STUDY THIS
http://members.fortunecity.com/templarser/synth1.html
and/or this;
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/5821/analog.html
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What guitar pedal or effect or rack gear does this timbre stuff

Aural Exciter- for harmonics
Frequency Analzer- Electro harmonics
Ring Modulator - do you mean ? AC

sorry if i post wrong where should it go AC

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pedals

walters wrote:
What guitar pedal or effect or rack gear does this timbre stuff

Aural Exciter- for harmonics
Frequency Analzer- Electro harmonics
Ring Modulator - do you mean ? AC

sorry if i post wrong where should it go AC


NO, something which creates a tone, is a synth, a tone generator.

Pedals for guitars process sounds, they don't create it.

However, timbre and tone can be used in the same breathe though, "nice timbre on that synth", "cool timbre on that drum" ... etc. If you process a sound (WITH ANYTHING) you will alter the timbre, cause you will change the energy of the harmonic series in some way.

Read this:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/timbre.html

Are you writing an essay for school or something?
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no just trying to advance myself sorry


so should i run a synth tones in a summing mixing with my guitar
in the input also and added them ?

How can i apply this to a guitar pedal what circuit or network do i need?

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guitar

walters wrote:
no just trying to advance myself sorry


so should i run a synth tones in a summing mixing with my guitar
in the input also and added them ?

How can i apply this to a guitar pedal what circuit or network do i need?


If you dig on guitar tones I'd go a buy a Line 6 click here:

Either this: http://www.line6.com/
Or
Guitar Rig: http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?guitarrig_us
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I have the GT-6 by roland

but i need a Timbre pedal or unit to just give me only different
Timbres

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yep

walters wrote:
I have the GT-6 by roland

but i need a Timbre pedal or unit to just give me only different
Timbres


Yep both these will:

Either this: http://www.line6.com/
Or
Guitar Rig: http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?guitarrig_us
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What the eq,chorus,delay , flanger,phase

what would give me different timbres?

I don't get it sorry

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