I finally know the secret.

And in my opinion anyone that masters to -6 RMS is an idiot.

that includes mastering houses

anyone that even pulls to -10rms db as an average is an idiot.
that is the average at closes to which normal digital clipping occurs.

that's all i'd like to say on the matter.

oh wait up.....

oh sorry when i say an idiot i don't mean to mice words i'm talking about a dribbling fool.

unfortunately most "Major" recording since probably the 70's 80's have been done this way.

but anyone thinking that is an excuse is as said.... an idiot.
you don't understand:

what is more likely?

1. a redesign of audio listening equipment around a flawed idiot human error .

2. in the future when all the "money" influence of the major Rec studio's is gone (and it is going) from musical art the realisation that WOW we can turn up the amps and actually hear all the instruments and nuances.

TO anyone that is really happy with a mix an is going ot get it pulled by some nobody that charges a lot to max the gain to clip.

YOu are producing shit that will be seen as shit in the future.

average your RMS to about -17 -16

and keep your digital clip in the loudest part of the song to -4 -5 db. if it jumps to above no worries.

i have been shown by our friends at digitalindustry an effective way to do this.

Unless you want to produce shit.

but please by all means don't listen and produce shit it just makes it easier for people that produce real Audio Art that was meant to be listened to.

Rant over

my album is sounding better than i have ever heard it. on a hi fi that is.
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As with anything done in haste there is always usually an exception or correction that leaves one saying “dam it”.

Now is one of those :

There are exceptions to the -14db RMS limit ruining dynamic range and they lie in our measurement system.

They have to do with the diagnostic spectrometer reading RMS and the pure RMS power used to push a frequency at the lower range say 80hz against the perceived psychoacoustic db volume of a high pitched note say 2000hz as I’m sure we are well aware the 2k note needs much less pure RMS to sound as “loud” as the 80hz one in this case and I’m sure you will notice upon any analysis of a “good” sounding compression pushed to beyond the -14db range .

But don’t forget when I mean “good” that means maxing out the volume on say a $45 portable CD player preferably the worst the better.

But As a rule the rule still stands you can get away with it but only in a limited dynamic range and it’s all at the mid bottom end. But if you are creative in your compression and or EQ mix it can and is pulled off…..but not often and not with many of the “majors”.

thanx

What would be really good to see in the future is a diagnostic tool that is "coloured" to display perceived sound loudness of higher FEQ against the pure RMS of the lower it could all be displayed in RMS however the higher feq would have a running bias of display amplification towards the 20k point etc that would be real cool...... wait is that already done? no, i don't think so.

ok WAVES get to it.!

but you better bloddy credit me with the idea at least.
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Wow, you are truly a complete ignoramus.

Thank you!

Guess what i also studied a "decent" amount of psychology and an unqualified insult driven opinion can broadly be seen in this circumstance as a flattering statement due to your inherent feelings of an uncomfortable threat.

Just trying to remember where any why though ....................

Did you post some Music then delete it?

That I commented on?

Thank you for the compliment.
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BlackBay -

To be honest your post confuses the bejesus out of me. Perceived loudness is dependent not only on frequency but also the volume you choose for listening to the material. I would recommend reading up on Fletcher-Munson.
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CD Mastering and Media Production Services

Ted Fletcher, 'A Personal View Of Psychoacoustics:

i find it interesting you say that because in part that was what i was basing my theory on yes you are correct the volume is obviously a factor.

I’m talking about the human response to frequency which is of course is very subjective and changes with every human:

But in terms has some broad upper ceiling and lower floor limits of control if you know what I mean, so to say that a different way is to say:

humans perceive sound in a different way for each human ok, but there are some frequency that ALL humans respond to as perceived volume over say others at the same RMS volume and that control has an upper limit and a lower limit before you loose all perception of the sound. Kind of like grey noise or a sound wall.

so if one eliminates the frequencies perceived lower then obviously the perceived louder frequencies appear even more so, now this is not anything new to sound or music but I was just talking about how one can achieve the same perceived OVERALL volume or close to at -14 -13 RMS as say a differently mixed or mastered piece at say -10 or even -8.

That’s all.

Now I don’t claim to be the expert but I have had some good results:

And the more I look at this the more it improves. (not literally!) < (sorry that was a bad theoretical quantum physics joke)

i'll explain that bad joke in some theoretical sciences you can change things by thinking or looking at them.
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Just to add to the perception of me as a sane human being I’d like to mention that i totally adhere to that principal:


"in some theoretical sciences you can change things by thinking or looking at them."

also I believe humans can repair their own physicality by this means and protect themselves..

Obviously a human needs the energy to do it but.. Through food and such.


No no no this is right on topic.

If I come back and there is a “insane” section and you have moved my posts there I’ll be surprised angry and confused all at the same time possibly causing me the split into the equal sum of my atomic parts.

think about my carpet in that situation!
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