safety people i am new not only to this forum but to engineering and producing (i dont even call myself a producer)

i was wondering if u cud answer a question for me

when recording i know people should double up there vocals (as in using two tracks for the same verse)

some people say that you have to rerecord the vocals and put them in a different track

i am jsut wondering is it necessary to re record or does duplicating the vocals work jsut aswelll


safe man

Well, it is not always necessary to double vocals, but if you do use 2 different tracks and pan them. The slight differences and the nuances in the vocals of 2 different takes adds a fullness.

Just duplicating the track then panning does nothing, since they are identical.

if you do not want to twice record the same verse, you got to duplicate it as you suggest, and to do the following thing, to unpitch single some cents in many parts of the song and to move some phrases, so that they do not be so to tempo and if you have the patience, to stretch the end of some phrases, I believe that it is a good beginning not to have to repeat the take

hehe, by the time it takes to do that you could have recorded 10 vocals!

A nice effect would also be a slow chorus. Really fills it out without doing all the extra work.

I double-mic myself, make sure there's no phasing and pan the two tracks hard. Then add slightly different reverb/delay fx to each track.

We're talking about a Pennywise-esque doubling effect, ja?
I just record seperate vocal tracks. I sometimes do as many as four, though, so I can play with harmonies and panning, as seen at the beginning of the second verse here: http://theleftproject.com/getmeout.mp3
-Zac

Another thing I've done to really fatten the vocals is duplicate the track, pan the two, then pitch-shift one down a half-step. Good for some hip-hop sytles.
If you go down a minor third, you get a really creepy demonic sound.

You can also artificially double-track vocals using a "detune" setting on an effects processor. Most FX boxes have that setting nowadays.

Of course, I prefer double-tracking the old fashioned way. I agree with RhoneRanger: In the time it takes to set something up, you could've already double-tracked and finished the part.

Another thing I have found to be effective in thickening up the sound is by double-tracking (or, in my case, triple and quadruple-tracking) using 2 or three different microphones. Do one track with a condenser and another with a dynamic. Even the slightest difference in the nuances of the signal can change the overall sound.

There's my 2 cents. Take it as you wish.
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