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VectorStudios
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Need a FAST reply!!!

Can anyone tell me, within the next hour, whether or not the Phonic pcl 3200 is worth the money?

Thank you

Stuart

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Anything I've ever seen from Phonic is crap, IMNSHO....
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Exactly.. if something you are looking at says "Phonic" on it, or is lying next to something with the words "Phonic", Run, do not walk, RUN away and keep your money for a decent piece of equipment.....

Post Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:03 am 
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What is it about them that is so bad? Do they sound crap? or mess up the signal?

What gave them the bad reputation? Build quality?

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Cheap components, poor build quality, noise, poor sound quality... they are lower than Behringer on the quality-gear totem pole, and Behringer's pretty far down as well.... once again - just my opinion.... but if it works for what you need, then great!
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Ok thanks for the heads up. One question though, if these things are so low on the scale, where does that put things like CAD drum mics and stuff?

Lol, thanks again

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VectorStudios wrote:
One question though, if these things are so low on the scale, where does that put things like CAD drum mics and stuff?

Not far away either!
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Everyone seems to be pretty quick to respond here, and you all seem to have the same opinion. Two things that I have observed.

1: nobody as actually asked Stuart what he wants to do with the equipment and what he expects from it.

2: nobody has asked what his budget is and made sensable suggestions as to what he may be able to afford that would give him the quality he needs for the job he wants to do.

We cant all afford premium equipment and whilst a lot of us have managed to eventualy purchase the equipment that we always wanted and wholly believe in, we must all remember from where we started.

So Stuart if you would like to post your application and a rough guide to your budget I will be more than happy to try and assist with a sensable solution rather than just shout down products from the lower end of the range. Some of the comments above are founded. However I can prove to you that you can make professional quality recordings with Behringer products most of which will not cost you more than £100 each item. And I would boldly suggest that in a blind test these guy's shouting C**P and alike probably could not work out which was the premium and which was budget. No offense intended but my belief is that the skills of the engineer often out weigh the limitations of the equipment. There are exceptions to that rule obviously but believe me when I tell you that equipment is not everything. Thanks for your time.

Jules Freeman (Ourgate studios UK / Spain)

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hi

Oooooh hello Jules, nice to see ya to see ya nice.

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Hi jules.

Well, already have a Behringer Eurodesk MX2442A, and some basic PC equipment, But all I was raelly doing it for was to record Demo tracks for bands in the area at rock bottom prices. The idea is to be mobile so hard and rugged is better in this case rather than noiseless.

With being demo tracks and seeing as our budget was origionally ony £1000 we only currently charge £10 for the first hour, £5 for every hour after that.

It was only really a hobby to tell you the truth, as band members me and the guitarist looked to give really really cheap recording to other people.

I'm not looking for commertial quality icon_razz.gif

Stuart

For more information go to vectorstudios.here.ws (new domain pending)

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Whos that, Chris?

Just paasing on some critical knowledge that I gained from an excellent
establishment, called AudioCourses. Hey whats with the trainee rating icon_eek.gif

How you doing?

Jules.

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Hi Stuart, That sounds like a cool idea icon_cool.gif

Where you hoping to record multitrack and mix down later (Perhaps adding overdubs) or just record from number of mic's and di's real time to a stereo pair?

Jules.

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Hey Chris, My audio has improved icon_wink.gif sadly spelling is still the same m8 icon_lol.gif

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sound as a pound

julesf wrote:
Whos that, Chris?

Just paasing on some critical knowledge that I gained from an excellent
establishment, called AudioCourses. Hey whats with the trainee rating icon_eek.gif

How you doing?

Jules.


Sound mate, just sound.

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julesf wrote:
Hi Stuart, That sounds like a cool idea icon_cool.gif

Where you hoping to record multitrack and mix down later (Perhaps adding overdubs) or just record from number of mic's and di's real time to a stereo pair?

Jules.


The origional idea was just to record realtime, but we're hoping to record multi track eventually. Presumably we'd need to get a new mixer that records?

For the time being we just record a practice song to get levels, and if a song come s out with a guitar too low, just up the fader and do it again. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

How much would a decent multitrack be? I cant see any way of using the behringer lol.

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