Hi, well I've been fiddling with EQ settings in the software I use for track recording and it makes no difference.. I just cant get a great sound recording on the PC.
At the moment I plug my guitar into my distortion peddle and then the peddle into a M-Audio Audio Buddy Pre-Amp, and then that into my sound card which is only 16bit quality, but surely I don't need 24bit quality to realize the quality sound I'm searching for?

I'm just trying to get a sound where all the instruments dont sound flat. Sure I fiddle with the EQ etc and more or less get the guitar etc to sound how I want it, but the problem is it all sounds flat and not powerful A few years back I owned a Yamaha 8 track that recorded onto minidisc,which I know isn't the best recording medium because of compression etc, but the quality was perfect in my opinion for the type of music I make "BlackMetal".

At this link you can hear a track in mp3 format of a song I recorded on my old 8-track due for release soon.
http://einheit-produktionen.de/download/Wrath%20-%20Track02.mp3

And this link is for one of the new songs I'm working on using my computer, and you'll hear theres a big difference.
http://webzoom.freewebs.com/pagansoul/WRATH%20-%20Revenge%20-%20Blood%20and%20Steel%20%28Rehearsal%29.mp3

So I hope some one can give me some advice and tips on the best way to go about getting that nice powerful big guitar and drum sound. The drum samples I'm using are great but like all the instruments sound abit flat.
Also yes I shall be up grading to a sound card which supports 24bit recording, But I'm sure 24bit wont actually make a difference with the power of the sound?
I'm mostly happy with my old recordings I did on the 8-track, though the power of the sound still pails in comparison to other bands who have recorded in a studio.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Ok I'll move this into our new Work in Progress area and see if someone can help you with some feedback.
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Recording Studio Suntans

cool thanks

perhaps i am wrong mate but maybe if you investin a small mixing desk it might help
i plug my guitar into a roland rp100 then into a behringer euro desk then into my delta 1010lt sound card it might help i am new to home recording myself but if you check the link below you can hear my guitar sound

www.overplay.co.uk/UNDADOGZ

hopre this is of some help

thanks

The thing I've tried that had the biggest effect is to double the guitar track.

At first, I would take the guitar track and copy it into another open track, then pan one track hard left and the other hard right. That fattened it up immensely.

Now, I've figured out that with the Delta 1010 and Adobe Audition 1.5 combo, I can actually RECORD it this way instead of having to make a copy (I didn't know that Audition would let you record on two separate tracks from the same input source simultaneously).

I simply select the input off the 1010 for the first guitar track, and set it in Audition to be panned hard left. The on the next track, I select the same input off the 1010, but pan it hard right. This way, I get my two guitar tracks already panned as they record, saving me some time and avoiding the possibility of having one of the tracks not be perfectly lined up with the other.

Hope this helps some,

Mike

Wolfy wrote:

The thing I've tried that had the biggest effect is to double the guitar track. At first, I would take the guitar track and copy it into another open track, then pan one track hard left and the other hard right. That fattened it up immensely. Now, I've figured out that with the Delta 1010 and Adobe Audition 1.5 combo, I can actually RECORD it this way instead of having to make a copy (I didn't know that Audition would let you record on two separate tracks from the same input source simultaneously). I simply select the input off the 1010 for the first guitar track, and set it in Audition to be panned hard left. The on the next track, I select the same input off the 1010, but pan it hard right. This way, I get my two guitar tracks already panned as they record, saving me some time and avoiding the possibility of having one of the tracks not be perfectly lined up with the other. Hope this helps some, Mike

Just to add something here, if you actually play the same guitar part twice, i.e. two seperate performances so they are what is known as "double tracked" you'll find you can get some really FAT sounds ...

Worth a go..

It's because of the very small differences between the two takes that the thickness comes.


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Thanks yes Ive been recording 3 seperate takes for the guitars, so I pan the 2 to left and right and have one centre...Its sounding abit more solid at least.

Yes, I had read your discussion of this in another topic so I was trying to avoid the term 'double tracked' since I guess that's not what I'm really doing. True double tracking would be what you're describing. I'm just talking about copying an already existing part into another track.......don't know a term for that one...copy tracking???? Cheating, maybe? LOL

Wolfy wrote:

Yes, I had read your discussion of this in another topic so I was trying to avoid the term 'double tracked' since I guess that's not what I'm really doing. True double tracking would be what you're describing. I'm just talking about copying an already existing part into another track.......don't know a term for that one...copy tracking???? Cheating, maybe? LOL

Track duplicating maybe..
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Recording Studio Suntans

Works for me

I've been using a Pod through a cheap compressor called "The Fat Man"....I use it for tube type sound then into my Digi 002 racked....I'm using 24bit recording and trying to record as "hot" as possible....I also duplicate my tracks but I like to pan the 75% each way and push one slightly ahead...this can give a real slap back doubling type effect if overdone but a thicker sound when pushed ahead ever so slightly...