What are ways to get or doing Double Tracking?


How to get different FAT and Flanger double trackings sound?

walters wrote:

What are ways to get or doing Double Tracking? How to get different FAT and Flanger double trackings sound?

As I mentioned here:

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Double tracking is traditionally when two tracks of the same content are used. Although typically two different performances. The "fat" or "flanging" sound comes because no two performances are the same therefore the differences create rich textures. Dave Gilmore's vocals of Pink Floyd are a "classical" example of this double tracking.

http://www.studiorecordingengineer.com/ftopict-998.html

You have to have TWO performances of the same thing, not a copy, but TWO seperate takes. This will always result in subtle differences which is where the "fatness" comes from.
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Can't pitch shifting on of the copys do this same thing?

walters wrote:

Can't pitch shifting on of the copys do this same thing?

That would not be double tracking.

Besides the pitch changing would have to be very random in nature for it to sound anywhere near authentic.
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Pitch shifting + Delay

so it would pitch shift and Delay the time interval

like time nudging or time slipping the copy

plus pitch shifting the copy at the same time

walters wrote:

Pitch shifting + Delay so it would pitch shift and Delay the time interval like time nudging or time slipping the copy plus pitch shifting the copy at the same time

As I said previously, no, that is not and would not be "double tracking" and should not be confused with the term. By all means you can try this technique but you would be wrong to call it double tracking.

Your proposed technique would be called "pitch shift and delay" in an attempt to emulate double tracking (or some other wierd label).

But give it a go, it will not sound the same as no randomness exists, but experimenting is all part of the fun .. ..
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Thanks AC


yes yes thats is to emulate double tracking


called "pitch shift and delay" in an attempt to emulate double tracking

They make a boss pitch shift with delay and the pitch shifter is
REGULATED by the delay time

Pitch shifter REGULTAED by Delay time

One of my favorite tricks for "double tracking" is to duplicate the track, then pan the original tracl hard left and the duplicate hard right.....I then push the duplicate slightly ahead (a slight millisecond delay) to create an artifical double track....I then like to process each track slightly differently to add some thickness (phone booth sound on on, reverb on the other ?)....probably an old trick but real easy with todays DAW's .

Hi im paul, im a guitarist. I often double-track my guitar tracks. listen to Nuno Bettencourt's (Extreme) guitar tracks on every song (except More then Words!) on Extreme's old albums. Nuno always like to record two performances of the same thing (almost identical takes) but two separate takes and then panning one track hard-left and the other track hard-right. now thats a thick creamy double-track!

Experiment!

Last edited by impol on Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:00 pm, edited 1 time in total

One of the best bits of advice I got relating to double tracking came from Craig Northey of the Odds ....he told me when double tracking, always do the double directly after the first in order to keep the same feel, mike distance, amp setting, dirt in the strings, etc...A good example; Vocals....every tried doing a vocal harmony two or three weeks after the original was done recorded only to find the need to serious edit the second pass ? I started doing it as he recommended and the doubles ended up sounding much tighter and closer to the originals but still with enough differences to make it sound bigger (thicker, creamier, etc..)....ditto with guitar....as the first track is fresh in your head, the second is much easier to duplcate sonically & technically.

But again...there really are no rules and that is probably why we love the art of recording soooo much.