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zacanger
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New song, cool mix?

Mm... first post on this site that I JUST FOUND about ten minutes ago looking for info on the legal side of starting a studio.
Anyway, if anyone has any tips on how to mix the song below, it'd be most helpful. I'm pretty much just beginning, just have a cheap 8-track, but I'm slowly buying up better equipment for my studio.
Here's the link: http://www.geocities.com/hj_flirtingwithfate/Page596.mp3
Thanks!
-Zac
PS The link IS case sensitive. -Z

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zacanger
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New location for the mp3 with better bandwidth. hayleyjane.com/Page596.mp3
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virtualsounds
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Great song..Really.

Well there are many problems here. You need to get rid of the mudness in almost every track of your mix. Try to cut most low frequencies ,even from the kick drum if needed. Also try to boost all the high frequencies. Center the vocals of the woman, what I heard now was two vocals panned. It is used as a technique but it doesnt work really well in this one. Try to center at least one of two main vocals.
These are my opinions in general so you will need equalizing in almost every track and better panning for start..
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RhoneRanger
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I disagree completely with that....

I think the main problem is your vocals are not loud enough for the mix, and the bass is WAY too loud.

Beyond that, the vocals (especially the male.... The female vocal is VERY usable) are eaten up by compression. Listen to the vocals by themselves, hear how they move from 'clean' to 'muffled' this is due to incorrect compression settings, most likely the attack is too high (lower it to around 30 MS) and the release is too high (ower the release to around 300 MS) and you will hear HUGE difference. If you used compression on the recording chain, you can TRY to fix this by normalizing the tracks, but I fear you may need to re-record if this is the case.

The 'mudiness' talked about in the last post is exactly this.
If you back off the compression of the vocals, and lower the music in comparison to the vocals, you will have a decent sound! Great song BTW!

Overal the EQ is ok you might want to boost presence (4-8KHZ) some, especially on the higher toms. Also add more HIGH treble to the cymbals (above 10K) Overall, the drums DO NEED a better mix.

Try this with the drums: Listen to them by them selves, and mix until it sounds like a kit you want.

Overall, it sounds like you simply did not spend a lot of time on the mix, sounds like you just raise sliders to a certain position and listened on cheap headphones, called it good enough and hit export.

FINALLY, you can get rid of the hiss throughout the song by applying a noise gate on the mix.


Fix compression settings, and pay more attention to the mix, and you will have something really REALLY good here!

EDIT: I do like the pan of the male:female, BUT you would achieve a much greater effect if you did not QUITE hard pan. Pan each ALMOST hard, and add some verb on the vox. THEN you have sth!

Bottom line: Rerecord the male vox, do not pan so hard, remix the drums and add presence. Lower the bass and set the vocals higher in comparison to the instruments.

I normally do not spend this much time helping, but I really like this song! Hell, I would be willing to remix this for you for nothing. I REALLY like this song!

EDIT2: The guitar work is especially tasty!

EDIT 3: (like I said, I really like this song) if the drums are recorded as a single or 2 tracks, then you need to set the eq with a flat response, and boost around the 1 K range to a nice curve I would say 3 DB above the rest of the kit, keep it flat till around the 8K range do another curve boost there and keep it SLOWLY rising till the 20K. This will add very VERY much to a kit that is recorded in a single take.

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virtualsounds
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This is totally technical and correct from a perspective. Great post. Nice to have people here helping all the way.
I dont have any different opinion, but I said only a "beginner" option, like cutting frequencies and simple eq to clear out the mix because I understood that he was just a beginner.
In any way I hope we will listen to a new mix after all these advices.
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