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rags321
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Active nearfield monitors

Hello, I'm a newbie.. I'm trying to setup a home recording studio and am looking for Active nearfield monitors lesser than 300$. Any suggestions?
I've looked at some sites and came across Behringer Truth 2030A, M-Audio BX8, KRK RP series,EDIROL MA-10DBK, Wharfdale DP8.2A within my budget.
My room is 12x12 size.
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:42 am 
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rags321
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will somebody pleeeeeeeease reply?

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Post Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:17 am 
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I have a pair of the Tapco S5 speakers and I think they are very nice. I did recently upgrade to a 8 inch pair of Haflers and the Tapcos hold their ground all things considered. Actually I still have the Tapcos and if you want them I would give you a deal and you would have some money left of your $300 budget. I also have the Tapco SW10 that I would sell but not looking to. The Tapco 2.1 setup sounds very nice but it is beyond your budget.

I have a pair of Roland RSM 90 speakers and they are passive. I ran them through an Alesis RA300 and I thought the Tapcos sounded better. The RSM 90s have more high end to them compared to the Tapco S5 and that is why I probably liked them better. When I put the SW10s on the RSM 90's they sounded very cool.

I am starting to sound like a gear head. I guess it was bound to happen. Good luck on your quest to the perfect budget monitors!

Mrsoul

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Hey rags321, now wasn't that kind of MrSoul considering you asked twice?
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i'm dealing with Event PS6 and lemme tell you, just the ps6 sound great, as i got used to them... i've read reviews on the ps6, and it was said that the low freq. response was weak, but sitting at the mixing position, i find they're great for wat i need to accomplish... proof, as soon as i go further back in the room, and the bass expands like it should, i realise i mixed it well on'em...

i think monitors should be a personal choice, after testing a couple of them... because knowing everybody has different hearing, all comments will be biased... so test them for yourself, of course, using the knowledge everybody gives you... and the feedback you get on different makes and models...

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I use the Even PS8 monitors. I trust them because they translate well to other consumer systems. I would go with an Event monitor if I were in your position and had to choose a monitor.

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I used to use PS6's a few years ago... they're ok but don't provide enough mid-detail. I didn't find they translated very well at all.... they have that mids-sucked-out sound that a large majority of budget-oriented monitors suffer from (they sound pretty, but don't give you the right kind of info for production work.)

I ended-up replacing them with KRK V8s... and later on, replacing those with ADAM S2As....
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I've always wanted a pair of KRK but I could never afford a decent pair. I didn't want to go the total entry level route with the an 5-6.5 inch woofer so I bought the PS8.

Tell me more about these ADAM S2As.

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poman wrote:
Tell me more about these ADAM S2As.

http://www.adam-audio.de/studio/nearfield/s2a_data.htm

Imaging is superb - the speakers don't get in the way of the sound at all.... completely clean-sounding at all levels... outstanding low-end and detailed highs. Mid-range detail and definition is crisp and precise....

They run about $4500 Cdn per pair, but well worth it!
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I use behringer truths b2031.
The presence region of them is really nice however they lack a bit in the low middle area and i'm guessing they are not very precise in the bass frequencies as kick drums are really hard to hear on some albums and are loud on others.

They don't reveal much of the inaccuracies compared to a decent set of monitors but there you go budget!

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near feild's are a funny thing .. i feel you don't normally have to spend alot and buy the most expensive pair of monitors that are linear and have a large freq range .. basically think of it this way .. what speakers are the genereal consumers listening to ? and are they hearing what you are hearing ?.. the answer is that the general public will listen to your mix on full range bookshelf speakers and no they are not hearing wut you are hearing if you are using high end monitors.. thats why alot of engineers used to carry a boom box or bookshelf's with them to tha studio to see wut the mix will sound like on cheaper commercial speakers.. thats where such speakers as the infamous NS-10's came into play, they are bookshelf speakers that enginers used till it was almost a standard... they are still found in tons of studio's although they are no longer so popular.. sound too middy ... but my point is that you can get away with buying a decent power amp with and a nice set of full range bookshelf's if you want to go cheap , or actually you can buy a nice m-audio or alesis .. they are cheap and pre-powered .. don't go crazy with the speakers it's all hype for you to spend money .. the real magic happens in your ears and how you can properly set up your speakers by minimizeing room reflections by difusing instances with splayed walls and ceilings and of course bass traps .. and generally aim them at your self and make sure you are in the center of the mix but far back enough to hit your sweet spot .. now it's just a fact of getting to know your freq repsonse on your speakers , this can be done buy playing a freq or pink /white noise.. raise the low and and play a mic in the center of your mix , now se a spectrum analzer and analyze wuts coming off your speakers from your mic .. see if it is an acuarate represantation of the orig, now do this with all your freq cycles. then your goal is to set your eq so everything coming in is flat ------------ a lil bounce is normal but generally close ... now just use that eq setting and bassically everything will sound flat or more linear, the u should be able to make acurate gains and notch's from that linear state..and you now have good speakers.. but if you want bass buy somthing with a lil bigger sub .. maybee an 8 or 12 inch .. somthin to get the 60-30 ... good luck i hope i wasn't scattered wth what i was sayin , i tend to rush through my words sometimes ..

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VGAES wrote:
near feild's are a funny thing .. i feel you don't normally have to spend alot and buy the most expensive pair of monitors that are linear and have a large freq range .. basically think of it this way .. what speakers are the genereal consumers listening to ? and are they hearing what you are hearing ?.. the answer is that the general public will listen to your mix on full range bookshelf speakers and no they are not hearing wut you are hearing if you are using high end monitors.. thats why alot of engineers used to carry a boom box or bookshelf's with them to tha studio to see wut the mix will sound like on cheaper commercial speakers.. thats where such speakers as the infamous NS-10's came into play, they are bookshelf speakers that enginers used till it was almost a standard... they are still found in tons of studio's although they are no longer so popular.. sound too middy ... but my point is that you can get away with buying a decent power amp with and a nice set of full range bookshelf's if you want to go cheap , or actually you can buy a nice m-audio or alesis .. they are cheap and pre-powered .. don't go crazy with the speakers it's all hype for you to spend money .. the real magic happens in your ears and how you can properly set up your speakers by minimizeing room reflections by difusing instances with splayed walls and ceilings and of course bass traps .. and generally aim them at your self and make sure you are in the center of the mix but far back enough to hit your sweet spot .. now it's just a fact of getting to know your freq repsonse on your speakers , this can be done buy playing a freq or pink /white noise.. raise the low and and play a mic in the center of your mix , now se a spectrum analzer and analyze wuts coming off your speakers from your mic .. see if it is an acuarate represantation of the orig, now do this with all your freq cycles. then your goal is to set your eq so everything coming in is flat ------------ a lil bounce is normal but generally close ... now just use that eq setting and bassically everything will sound flat or more linear, the u should be able to make acurate gains and notch's from that linear state..and you now have good speakers.. but if you want bass buy somthing with a lil bigger sub .. maybee an 8 or 12 inch .. somthin to get the 60-30 ... good luck i hope i wasn't scattered wth what i was sayin , i tend to rush through my words sometimes ..

There's so much misinformation in this post I don't know where to start....

I guess the easiest way to sum it up is as simple as, if you can't hear it, then you can't mix it. And the second point being that if your monitor chain (including the room) colors what you're hearing, then you'll never be able to determine the difference between whether a problem is the tracks/mix, or just the monitor chain itself.

So no... you can't just slap up a pair of crappy monitors.... not by a long shot. During production, you need a monitor chain that reveals sonic issues. Cheap monitors will not do this. Period. And cheap monitors in a bad room will NEVER work. Ever.... and neither will great monitors in a bad room. The room itself is part of the monitor chain.

Think of it this way.... in a medical lab, a microscope is used to differentiate characteristics of germs. If the lab tech uses a cheap microscope that doesn't show enough of the germs detail, they will not be able to differntiate the difference between some germs and others, with inaccurate results if the doctor is given an incorrect analysis. Control room monitors are excatly the same as a medical lab's microscopes...................

Oh - and EQ on the monitor chain is a COMPLETE no-no.... room inaccuracies are time-based issues that HAVE to be fixed by acoustic treatment. You can't fix time-based sonic reflection issues with EQ.... that's the equivalent of sawing a piece of wood with a butter knife. The completely wrong tool for the job.
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