WELL I RAP .. AND I USUALLY PUT A VOCAL LIMIT .. BUT THAT EFFECT "REALLY" BRINGS OUT UNWANTED NOISE .. ANY SUGGESTIONS ???

rSOLE wrote:

WELL I RAP .. AND I USUALLY PUT A VOCAL LIMIT .. BUT THAT EFFECT "REALLY" BRINGS OUT UNWANTED NOISE .. ANY SUGGESTIONS ???

This is a matter of taste, you could use compression, reverb, delay almost anything it's just down to what ever you prefer.
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Why not just raise the threshold on your limiter if you like limiting? You don't necessarily need to smash your vocal track to death to make it smooth. The lower your threshold, the lower the output volume from the limiter. Then to compensate, you have to turn up the volume, thereby increasing the noise with it.

*sigh* GODDAMNIT *sigh*

Limiting has NOTHING to do with unwanted noise. Limiting says "This is the max DB I will allow"

You use a noise gate to remove unwanted noise. You set the threshold of the gate high enough to remove room hiss and background noise WHEN THE VOCALIST IS SILENT, but low enough to allow the signal to be obtained by the mixer.

To get a nice fat rap vocal, start with a compressor and set it initially to this. Play around with the settings (Not too much, the only things you might change are upping the ratio and the makeup gain) until you get the fatness you desire.

Threshold: -12 DB

Ratio: 6:1.

Attack: Very low <10 MS (For rap I put my attack at .1 MS)

Release: 150 ms (just to get any extra sighs in there, or vocal inflections. You do not want to cut it off completely. )

Output: +3 DB ( to make up for the gain lost when the signa;l approaches 0 DB)

RhoneRanger wrote:

*sigh* GODDAMNIT *sigh* Limiting has NOTHING to do with unwanted noise. Limiting says "This is the max DB I will allow" You use a noise gate to remove unwanted noise. You set the threshold of the gate high enough to remove room hiss and background noise WHEN THE VOCALIST IS SILENT, but low enough to allow the signal to be obtained by the mixer.

For areas of silence, indeed a gate works nicely. My point was more how the noise will decrease relative to the signal when over the compressor/limiter threshold, making quieter parts below the threshold appear to have more noise. Obviously, I don't know where in his track he hears the most noise since he didn't actually say.