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walters
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preamp Colours and Flavors

Which Preamps give Colours and Flavors ?


What causes a Preamp to have different Colours and Flavors?



Some Preamps are clean and transparent but i want preamps that have

Alot of colour and Flavors to add to the sound what causes this effect?

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Cheap ones

Cheap ones, i.e. components which have bad tolerances.
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Thanks AC


Do you know any PRE PRODUCTION- coloration tricks

I want to get the most coloration for PRE PRODUCTION


DO you know any POST PRODUCTION- coloration tricks

i would like to have alot of tracks with alot of coloration

what should i do or want gear do i need to get to this or

produce this type of coloration Mixing

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pre prodution?

walters wrote:
Thanks AC


Do you know any PRE PRODUCTION- coloration tricks

I want to get the most coloration for PRE PRODUCTION


DO you know any POST PRODUCTION- coloration tricks

i would like to have alot of tracks with alot of coloration

what should i do or want gear do i need to get to this or

produce this type of coloration Mixing


Pre production?

Define this please.

To me pre-production is before you record it.
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Yes me to PRE PRODUCTION

is like the amp type , speakers used, mic position, mic type , mic preamp

mic compressor

All this from PAIRing different combinations will have Different

colourations

COLORATION mean to me: the mic preamp , guitar preamp , compressor

SET AT UNITY GAIN just want to hear the circuit

TONE/TIMBRE/VOICing of the design to add Coloration



Im looking for what causes alot of coloration what gear like what

compressors , mic preamps , guitar preamps and how do i

ampilify this coloration i would like alot of it in my tracking and mixing?

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walters wrote:
Yes me to PRE PRODUCTION

is like the amp type , speakers used, mic position, mic type , mic preamp

mic compressor

All this from PAIRing different combinations will have Different

colourations

COLORATION mean to me: the mic preamp , guitar preamp , compressor

SET AT UNITY GAIN just want to hear the circuit

TONE/TIMBRE/VOICing of the design to add Coloration



Im looking for what causes alot of coloration what gear like what

compressors , mic preamps , guitar preamps and how do i

ampilify this coloration i would like alot of it in my tracking and mixing?


Every thing you use will color the sound, the cheaper the box the more colour typically, it's not rocket science.
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Thanks AC for talking me about this



But how do i make my mix with alot coloruation

do i need to duplicate every track like 3 to 5 times

and put like 8 different cheap preamps and compressors

at unity gain what do i need to do i want my mix with alot

of colouration right now its just to DRY i want more COLOURATION

what do i need to do ?

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walters wrote:
Thanks AC for talking me about this



But how do i make my mix with alot coloruation

do i need to duplicate every track like 3 to 5 times

and put like 8 different cheap preamps and compressors

at unity gain what do i need to do i want my mix with alot

of colouration right now its just to DRY i want more COLOURATION

what do i need to do ?


Put every effect you have on every channel.
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Thanks AC for the replys


Im not talking about modulation effects, Time based

chorus , flanger, phase,delays , reverbs


Im talking more about using a Mic preamp and a compressor

or a audio Transformers at unity gain for colouration


Electronic coloration the circuit or design at unity gain


DRY MIX VS WET MIX reverbs and delays

DRY MIX VS PROCESSING MIX thats using Time based effects

DRY MIX VS COLOURATION MIX this is what i want to use

gear like mic preamps , tubes, transformers

, different compressors to ADD color to the audio

how do i do this ?

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walters wrote:
Thanks AC for the replys


Im not talking about modulation effects, Time based

chorus , flanger, phase,delays , reverbs


Im talking more about using a Mic preamp and a compressor

or a audio Transformers at unity gain for colouration


Electronic coloration the circuit or design at unity gain


DRY MIX VS WET MIX reverbs and delays

DRY MIX VS PROCESSING MIX thats using Time based effects

DRY MIX VS COLOURATION MIX this is what i want to use

gear like mic preamps , tubes, transformers

, different compressors to ADD color to the audio

how do i do this ?


use the aux to send a feed to them.
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do you think putting a D.I unit in the send and return because its

a audio transformer in D.I units can add colouration to the sound?


So i should put like a D.I on every track?

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an old saying

there's an old saying where i come from:
"just do it." icon_smile.gif

how about trying these things you talk about and let us know how they go?

as far as coloration, it's usually frequency reponse and harmonic distortion that are affected by devices like preamps, dynamics, and eqs.

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Thanks Uncle


"as coloration, it's usually frequency reponse and harmonic distortion that are affected by devices like preamps, dynamics, and eqs."


Can you please talk about this more i would like to get more of this

colouration of the frequency response from preamps and dynamics

how do i set this up Uncle you seem to know what im saying ?

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coloration

easiest way to change frequency response is by using an eq. you can tailor whatever response you want.

you can get harmonic distortion by running the signal through just about any circuit. this just means that harmonic content (overtones) is altered by the circuit.

most manufacturers try to have as little Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) as possible. If you want this distortion, use the cheapest piece of solid-state equipment you can find. (tubes work too, but they're generally more expensive). anything will work, from rack gear to guitar pedals-- even biuld your own.

look up the specs in the manual on your gear to see if the manufacturer lists the THD%. --take that into consideration when buying gear, too.

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Thanks Uncle


So the more Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) the more color the

unit or gear with be on the audio more color on the output of the

gear

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